[UGAF] Top dog request.

Dustin Davis dustin at davisvillage.com
Fri Nov 21 05:38:31 MST 2008


So, what is the overall purpose - to try to show that Coldfusion is
faster/better than other languages? I've got about 8 years experience with
PHP, so I may be able to help. I've also been coding a lot of Python/Django
lately. I don't know if I would consider myself expert in that area yet, but
I could probably demonstrate each of the areas you mentioned.

On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 1:10 AM, David McGuigan <davidmcguigan at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hey guys,
> Tonight was my first UPHPU meeting. Great presentations, thanks for having
> me.
>
> My name's David McGuigan, and I'm a full time Web developer about a year
> and
> change out of school and have been toying around with a pretty interesting
> idea.
>
> I've got kind of a random, fun request for the group. It's a chance to
> really show off PHP and possibly recruit some new developers to it. If
> anyone would be interested, I'm in need of an intermediate or expert,
> recognizably-efficient PHP developer with a little bit of charisma able to
> get to Salt Lake once or twice (I'll gladly pay for gas and lunch) to sit
> in
> with me (I'll be doing this with a few other developers from other
> languages
> too) and record some really short, light, PHP tutorials with screen and
> audio capturing software that I'll be purchasing specifically for this
> purpose (just screen, no web cam). Well, more like PHP demonstrations than
> tutorials really.
>
> Here are some examples of videos we might record:
> 1. Installing PHP
> 2. Connecting to a MySQL database and making some simple queries
> 3. Displaying the results with an HTML/CSS front end
> 4. Creating a simple listing, editing and updating form page to manage a
> table's data
> 5. Some simple AJAX techniques with PHP backends
> 6. Sending an email with PHP
>
> Nothing too major, and the demos are totally flexible. This won't take more
> than a few hours (depending on how long it takes to do any of the stuff in
> PHP )
>
> Long story short, I'm looking to get a single developer from each of the
> main server side products (PHP, Ruby, "Microsoft", Java, and ColdFusion,
> etc.) to record these demos to show how to do the exact same Web app type
> things in each language.
>
> The reason I'm looking for a more-experienced/efficient developer is so
> when
> we're putting these videos together people from the represented discipline
> won't feel like the language itself was misrepresented by a particularly
> slow or inexperienced programmer.
>
> For example I've got 4 years ColdFusion experience, so I write ColdFusion
> about 15x faster than maybe someone who's been at it for 6 months. I'm not
> really concerned with how much time you've been writing PHP so much as just
> getting someone visibly good. Someone that other PHP developers would see
> in
> these videos and go, "Yeah, that's about right" or "Nice! That guy's fast!"
>
> If anyone can help out on this or knows a PHP-er that'd be into it let me
> know. If you have particular frameworks ( MVC, ORM, what have you ) that
> you
> use in your development we can definitely explore including them in the
> demos if it'll speed up your coding and make the PHP demos faster and more
> impressive. I really want PHP to look good here, no ulterior motives.
>
> What I'm really worried about is recording these videos and having
> ColdFusion look so much better than the other languages that it seems
> staged
> or exaggerated, so it's probably be a good idea for the person to use
> what's
> generally accepted as the best PHP IDE available (we'll have a computer set
> up ready for all of this stuff that you can install anything to, even a
> trial) and any PHP-specific best practices in the code they write.
>
> Anyone who's interested please write back. Thanks!
>
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