[UPHPU] Pastebin.org, Would Anybody like to help me create a pastebin?

[Velda Christensen]

Scott Hill wrote:
>  I have
> never been able to justify the overhead of a template engine in what I've
> done so far.
>
> My humble $.0s.

I can see skipping a separate template system if you work alone or with 
a close knit team.  Not everyone has that luxury though.

As a designer, I prefer using smarty or a template system like it, even 
if it's a reinvented wheel, because of an experience I had with a bit of 
a neurotic programmer who frequently made me his scapegoat. Most 
programming errors, he made it clear, could have been easily avoided by 
not giving a skirt access to the code, even if she was just logging in 
to add css classes.  Since I was responsible for presentation and 
usability, had we used a separate template system, I'd still be there, 
and they wouldn't be calling me every year or so asking what it'd take 
to bring me back.

I know that's one bad situation and there should be dozens of better 
situations to make up for it. But the fact of the matter is, you can't 
always choose your designers, and you just may be able to avoid a little 
frustration for both parties by drawing a big line between back end and 
design.   That line gets a bit fuzzy if your logic and presentation are 
done in the same code.

Plus, as a web host, it's nice to be able to tell people they can edit 
the templates on their shopping cart systems without having to be afraid 
they'll mess up the php.  It's nice also to be able to tell them they 
should be able to apply patches without having to worry about messing up 
their design work.  And it's alot easier to tell them those things if 
the system they're using is built with smarty.

-V